J'ai reçu un courriel d'EDM le 15 mai en soirée m'informant sur les derniers développements depuis la rencontre qui a eu lieu le 9 avril dernier sur les dossiers d'adoption au Vietnam.
Le Département d'Adoption au Vietnam a du mal à obtenir la collaboration des orphelinats. Le DA ne croit pas être en mesure de faire de nouvelles propositions avant septembre 2011. EDM ne savent pas s'ils seront parmi les premières agences à recevoir des propositions. Par conséquent, même si le processus reprend en septembre, il se peut que cela prenne quelques semaines avant qu'ils envoient des dossiers à toutes les agences. Tel qu'indiqué lors de la rencontre le processus change du tout au tout...
Cependant, lorsque nous recevrons la proposition, les dossiers seront prêts et nous ne parlons donc plus d'un délai de 4 à 6 mois d'attente mais plutôt autour de 2 mois avant de voyager.
Pour ceux dont le dossier n'est pas au Vietnam actuellement, ils leur faudra compléter un nouveau formulaire. Il y aura possiblement des frais supplémentaires pour l'inscription de leur dossier au DA et ces frais font parti de la nouvelle loi.
Tout est encore en négociation et en mouvance et EDM nous communiquera les détails dès qu'ils les auront...
Bordel, un autre délai de 3 mois additionnel... Espérant qu'il y aura de belles journées ensoleillées pour me changer les idées!!
Bonne journée! Marie-Jo.
Présentement en procédure d'adoption d'une petite fille ou d'un petit garçon du Viêt Nam, j'ai eu l'idée d'écrire sur les différentes étapes de ce beau projet de vie et d'y inclure mes émotions, réflexions, images et autres, dans le but d'en conserver le souvenir et le partager ensuite avec ma perle du Viêt Nam. Marie-Jo.
lundi 16 mai 2011
dimanche 1 mai 2011
Informations transmises suite au Gala TDH qui a eu lieu en mars 2011
Ci-joint, un extrait de la newslettre publiée sur le site de Terre des Hommes Ontario; Le texte est en anglais.
Questions and Answers: Vietnam program update
The following summary reflects the content of the session held with parents prior to the Gala on Saturday March 26th, 4:30pm.
Dorinda and the Board Chair, Bruce Chick, began the evening with a brief discussion of the $1000/year fee memo that was sent to waiting parents earlier this week.
Business is challenging and the business side of Adoption is even more so as those working on behalf of the waiting children and waiting parents manage constant variables. The trends in international adoption show that 3 years ago completing an adoption within a calendar year was not unheard of. Today the wait is much longer and the fee schedule did not take that increased timeline into account.
Dorinda went on to explain the following:
The decrees and circulars tell all levels of the government and the agencies how the new laws will be implemented (essentially what the rules are).
The decrees and circulars were signed this week by the Vietnamese National Assembly (March 21st).
As of today, the 26th of March, there is no official translation available though a rough translation can be found on the Vietnamese Government site.
April will be taken up with the training process, first for all levels of the government and then on April 21st a training session for agencies.
Files submitted to the Department of Adoption (DOA) for the Sept 30th deadline will have to be resubmitted.
The official word is that once adoptions resume parents’ files can be sent to any province.
TDH will follow the established wait list but it is still unknown how many files will be submitted to the DOA or how many adoptions will be processed in a year. There is no reason to assume that the number would change from the TDHO average of about 35 per year.
Agency reaccreditation is required but is not a “big deal” for TDHO.
Things we know for sure (Non Special Needs)
There is a new application form.
Adoption Program Updates: 1st Quarter - 2011
All documents must be less than a year old when submitted to the DOA.
A homestudy update can be a one page statement that all things remain the same.
DofA is to decide the number of adoptions to each country/agency based on previous 2 years performance.
How the Non Special Needs process will look:
Legal 180 day process takes place and is completed (essentially 2 month search for a local family, 2 month search for a family provincially, 2 month search for a family federally)
Provinces send a list of available children to the DofA, for example 5 children might be available in Vung Tau.
DOA says 8 parent dossiers from agency X can be submitted to Vung Tau for consideration.
The Provincial Justice Department does the matching.
5 parent files are matched. 3 parent files are not matched. The 3 remaining files stay in the province for 3 additional rounds of available children (1 round of child listings per month, so unmatched parent dossiers remain in the province for 3 additional months).
Parent dossiers still unmatched after 3 months are returned to the DofA and then sent to a new province when another list comes out.
It is anticipated that there will be about a 9 month process from the child entering the system to parents traveling. After the child proposal the process is much more streamlined. Where there used to be the first letter, second letter and parent dossier steps now there is only one letter from the DofA to the province.
It is not clear if there will be an additional month added on to the 180 days for abandoned children and a birth parent search or whether that search will happen concurrently with the local search.
Q and A session with Mr. Binh (Director of the Department of Adoption), Ms. Dzung (Deputy Head of the Administrative Division, Department of Adoption), Loan and Thuy (TDHO representatives in Vietnam).
How will the matching process work? Matching will be done 1 time per month. Mr Binh confirmed the process outlined by Dorinda with respect to files being sent to provinces for matching and unmatched dossiers remaining for 3 additional months of matching.
Do you know what criteria the provinces will use for matching? The legally acceptable dossier of the child is created . The parents’ files, sent from the DOA, are legal and complete. The match will be based on the adoptive parents’ request as well as on the needs of the child. The province will choose the best match.
Is parental age a factor? There is no age limit in the law but when the province does the matching they will pay attention. Adoptive parents who are “older” (at the time defined as 45-50, later in the evening defined as 50-60) would be best to extend their age to 2 or 3 years plus.
Children who are healthy and 5 or older as well as those who are special needs can be adopted as a “named” child. The process is much faster. There is no 180 day search.
Dorinda clarified…But ultimately it is the province and not the Department of Adoption that makes the match? The law does not specify age?
Yes.
Are there a lot of children 3 years and older available for adoption?
Yes
Will there be a preference of married couples over singles? Yes, for example a couple would be matched first, then a single female, then a single male.
Will you ever match a single? Yes, but there will be more matching for single women than men
If you have previously adopted from Tra Vinh does that factor into the matching process? No. Priority would only be given if a biological sibling was being adopted. The process is streamlined for a sibling.
Who selects the agency adoptive parent files that go to a province? The DOA will decide the dossiers along with the agency. The agency submits a list of priorities. It will also be based on the date the dossiers are submitted to the DOA.
Can you speak to the 1 year rule? Documents need to be less than 1 year old at the time they are deposited at the DOA. Papers will expire and parents will be asked to update.
When would the new system start? The law took effect Jan 2011. The decrees and circulars were signed March 21st. The process will begin in May. In provinces that began processing children according to the new laws (so started the 180 days of searches) could be listing their children in May. Other provinces that waited for the decrees will begin listing their children later.
Is there going to be a limit on the number of Dossiers that can be deposited by the agency? Yes, to stop the papers from expiring. Agencies will be told a number of dossiers they can deposit.
What percentage of domestic versus international adoptions do you expect in the foreseeable future? The statistics over the last 3 years show about 3000 to 3500 domestic adoptions to about 1000 international. In VN many children who are orphaned are taken in by family and never registered.
The session ended with the invitation for individuals to approach TDH staff or the delegates with questions one-on-one.
Questions and Answers: Vietnam program update
The following summary reflects the content of the session held with parents prior to the Gala on Saturday March 26th, 4:30pm.
Dorinda and the Board Chair, Bruce Chick, began the evening with a brief discussion of the $1000/year fee memo that was sent to waiting parents earlier this week.
Business is challenging and the business side of Adoption is even more so as those working on behalf of the waiting children and waiting parents manage constant variables. The trends in international adoption show that 3 years ago completing an adoption within a calendar year was not unheard of. Today the wait is much longer and the fee schedule did not take that increased timeline into account.
Dorinda went on to explain the following:
The decrees and circulars tell all levels of the government and the agencies how the new laws will be implemented (essentially what the rules are).
The decrees and circulars were signed this week by the Vietnamese National Assembly (March 21st).
As of today, the 26th of March, there is no official translation available though a rough translation can be found on the Vietnamese Government site.
April will be taken up with the training process, first for all levels of the government and then on April 21st a training session for agencies.
Files submitted to the Department of Adoption (DOA) for the Sept 30th deadline will have to be resubmitted.
The official word is that once adoptions resume parents’ files can be sent to any province.
TDH will follow the established wait list but it is still unknown how many files will be submitted to the DOA or how many adoptions will be processed in a year. There is no reason to assume that the number would change from the TDHO average of about 35 per year.
Agency reaccreditation is required but is not a “big deal” for TDHO.
Things we know for sure (Non Special Needs)
There is a new application form.
Adoption Program Updates: 1st Quarter - 2011
All documents must be less than a year old when submitted to the DOA.
A homestudy update can be a one page statement that all things remain the same.
DofA is to decide the number of adoptions to each country/agency based on previous 2 years performance.
How the Non Special Needs process will look:
Legal 180 day process takes place and is completed (essentially 2 month search for a local family, 2 month search for a family provincially, 2 month search for a family federally)
Provinces send a list of available children to the DofA, for example 5 children might be available in Vung Tau.
DOA says 8 parent dossiers from agency X can be submitted to Vung Tau for consideration.
The Provincial Justice Department does the matching.
5 parent files are matched. 3 parent files are not matched. The 3 remaining files stay in the province for 3 additional rounds of available children (1 round of child listings per month, so unmatched parent dossiers remain in the province for 3 additional months).
Parent dossiers still unmatched after 3 months are returned to the DofA and then sent to a new province when another list comes out.
It is anticipated that there will be about a 9 month process from the child entering the system to parents traveling. After the child proposal the process is much more streamlined. Where there used to be the first letter, second letter and parent dossier steps now there is only one letter from the DofA to the province.
It is not clear if there will be an additional month added on to the 180 days for abandoned children and a birth parent search or whether that search will happen concurrently with the local search.
Q and A session with Mr. Binh (Director of the Department of Adoption), Ms. Dzung (Deputy Head of the Administrative Division, Department of Adoption), Loan and Thuy (TDHO representatives in Vietnam).
How will the matching process work? Matching will be done 1 time per month. Mr Binh confirmed the process outlined by Dorinda with respect to files being sent to provinces for matching and unmatched dossiers remaining for 3 additional months of matching.
Do you know what criteria the provinces will use for matching? The legally acceptable dossier of the child is created . The parents’ files, sent from the DOA, are legal and complete. The match will be based on the adoptive parents’ request as well as on the needs of the child. The province will choose the best match.
Is parental age a factor? There is no age limit in the law but when the province does the matching they will pay attention. Adoptive parents who are “older” (at the time defined as 45-50, later in the evening defined as 50-60) would be best to extend their age to 2 or 3 years plus.
Children who are healthy and 5 or older as well as those who are special needs can be adopted as a “named” child. The process is much faster. There is no 180 day search.
Dorinda clarified…But ultimately it is the province and not the Department of Adoption that makes the match? The law does not specify age?
Yes.
Are there a lot of children 3 years and older available for adoption?
Yes
Will there be a preference of married couples over singles? Yes, for example a couple would be matched first, then a single female, then a single male.
Will you ever match a single? Yes, but there will be more matching for single women than men
If you have previously adopted from Tra Vinh does that factor into the matching process? No. Priority would only be given if a biological sibling was being adopted. The process is streamlined for a sibling.
Who selects the agency adoptive parent files that go to a province? The DOA will decide the dossiers along with the agency. The agency submits a list of priorities. It will also be based on the date the dossiers are submitted to the DOA.
Can you speak to the 1 year rule? Documents need to be less than 1 year old at the time they are deposited at the DOA. Papers will expire and parents will be asked to update.
When would the new system start? The law took effect Jan 2011. The decrees and circulars were signed March 21st. The process will begin in May. In provinces that began processing children according to the new laws (so started the 180 days of searches) could be listing their children in May. Other provinces that waited for the decrees will begin listing their children later.
Is there going to be a limit on the number of Dossiers that can be deposited by the agency? Yes, to stop the papers from expiring. Agencies will be told a number of dossiers they can deposit.
What percentage of domestic versus international adoptions do you expect in the foreseeable future? The statistics over the last 3 years show about 3000 to 3500 domestic adoptions to about 1000 international. In VN many children who are orphaned are taken in by family and never registered.
The session ended with the invitation for individuals to approach TDH staff or the delegates with questions one-on-one.
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